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AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 19.03.11, 17:29
wert
Необходимо опознать бритву (нужно узнать производителя и год выпуска?), впервые с этим столкнулся. Помогите, пожалуйста.

Re: Помогите опознать бритву

Добавлено: 19.03.11, 17:44
Олег Бритва
Фотки плохие - фиг с ним... А можно хотя бы написать - текст с полотна?

Re: Помогите опознать бритву

Добавлено: 19.03.11, 18:03
wert
Конечно, можно. Вот то, что разобрал:
AD.ARBENZ'S
"MANDARIN"
JOUGNE FRANCE

Еще на лезвии надпись что-то вроде "Art'en"

Re: Помогите опознать бритву

Добавлено: 20.03.11, 15:28
Олег Бритва
Инфу не нашёл, зато нашёл себе такую ляльку...
8)

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 20.03.11, 15:41
Arodion499
А как это форма называется? Ох, жутко она мне нравится....

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 20.03.11, 15:47
Олег Бритва
Фрэймбэк
:D

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 20.03.11, 16:05
shok
А вот я все пытаюсь понять, как же их точат? Ведь обушок бритвы как я понимаю использовать нельзя.

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 21.03.11, 14:13
wert
А что это за фирма?

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 21.03.11, 14:24
Олег Бритва
У меня нет инфы... Бум искать...

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 21.03.11, 16:03
Tanius
Олег Бритва поздравляю! Отменная ляля! :good:
shok писал(а):А вот я все пытаюсь понять, как же их точат?
В спец машинке точат уже снятое лезвие.

П.С. Фрэймбеки есть не только со съёмными лезвиями. ;)

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 21.03.11, 18:29
Егор
Точат их как и все остальные опасные бритвы ничего не снимая на камнях . :)

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 26.03.11, 3:20
Олег Бритва
Чего-то инфа бьёт не пойми куда...
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Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 26.03.11, 22:16
Олег Бритва
1892 год реклама в газете.
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Полная путаница... Производитель англо-фрунцузо-швейцарец...
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Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 27.03.11, 1:54
Олег Бритва
Трудно остановится - инфа прёт...

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 27.03.11, 4:40
Олег Бритва
И ещё:
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Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 27.03.11, 15:32
wert
Спасибо огромное за проделанную работу!
Только путаница какая-то получается: на клейме четко написано "Jougne", а это город во Франции. Арбенс - английский производитель. Как так?

Re: AD.ARBENZ JOUGNE FRANCE

Добавлено: 27.03.11, 15:34
Олег Бритва
Олег Бритва писал(а):Полная путаница... Производитель англо-фрунцузо-швейцарец...
:unshaved:

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Ilisch
Капля инфы...
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McPherson Brothers (1891)

McPHERSON BROTHERS, Cutlers, 156, Argyle Street, and 134, Trongate, Glasgow.

The important and prosperous cutlery business now conducted at Glasgow by Messrs. McPherson Brothers presents an interesting example of rapid commercial advancement, considering that the firm only commenced some ten years ago, and have since acquired a noteworthiness and distinction consistent with the enterprise under which their business has been developed.

Messrs. McPherson first began business at 134, Trongate, and the rapid extension of trade that followed their operations necessitated such outlet as was afterwards provided by the acquisition of the Argyle Street establishment, long occupied by Messrs. Reid & Sons in the same line of trade. Both houses are now thoroughly representative of the high-class cutlery trade, and are fitted and appointed in a manner that renders them attractive features of the two busy thoroughfares in which they are respectively located. Besides all the miscellaneous items embraced in a first-class cutlery stock, both establishments are replete with every description of tradesmenÂ’s tools, ironmongery, fishing tackle, guns, revolvers. &c. ; and sporting men will here find everything requisite for shooting or fishing, from a single article to a complete equipment, at terms equally favourable with those of the several depots devoting exclusive attention to these branches.

The Trongate shop, with its large frontage and admirable facilities for display, is one of the most attractive in its row, while the other at the corner of Mitchell Street and Argyle Street admits of a series of five show windows, wherein everything is effectively admitted to the inspection of the public. The entire appearance of the house is suggestive of its high standing and importance as one of the CityÂ’s leading cutlery emporia. Everything in the windows is priced on neat hand-printed labels, this artistic work being executed by one of the partners, and the arrangement of the whole items is in perfect accordance with good taste.
While it is beyond the scope of the present sketch to specialise the merits of each department represented, attention may be directed to the two specialties for which Messrs. McPherson are best known. These are Arbenz’s celebrated Mandarin Razors, with interchangeable blades, and the patent “Eureka” Scissors, for both of which the firm are sole agents in Glasgow and district. The failure on the part of a number of much-advertised razors to accomplish the work claimed for them has led the public to a somewhat pardonable conclusion that such a thing as a perfect -razor is not to be found ; but since the introduction of the Mandarin Razors by the inventor of the celebrated Gem Air Guns these have been acknowledged at home and abroad as being as near to perfection as it is possible to attain. Produced from a specially fine brand of English steel, forged very fine throughout and hardened and tempered with great care, the Mandarins possess every qualification that gentlemen accustomed to shave will readily appreciate. They never require grinding, also very little stropping, and, under careful usage, are guaranteed to last a lifetime, giving at all times a luxurious and comfortable shave. A set, of Mandarin Razors with four or seven blades occupies no more space than a single razor, a consideration now-a-days to gentlemen travelling.
The peculiar feature of the “Eureka” Scissors' is their curved or rounded blades, the advantage of which enables the user to cut through the thickest material with the greatest ease, the cutting power being many times greater than any other form of scissors in the market. They have nicely-finished nickel-plated shaped bows to fit the fingers, and are made in every variety and size, suitable either for domestic or warehouse use. All sizes and varieties are kept in stock by this firm.

The whole of the specialties provided by Messrs. McPherson bear the guarantee of universal testimony, and, as the firm deal only in goods calculated to afford the utmost satisfaction, they are in consequence favoured with the liberal support and patronage of many of the better classes. Their business is in itself an illustration of success following upon systems of tact and enterprise, and both partners are well known in social and commercial circles for the vigorous interest they manifest in improving and extending the resources of the trade in which they have acquired such well-deserved repute and distinction.
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"Огонек" 1914г.
Бритвы Ад. Арбенца с заменяемым, первоклассным, гарантированным лезвием, в течение 25 лет признаны лучшими. Со своим необычайно простым и необыкновенно практичным приспособлением для безопасного бритья они являются безусловно самыми выгодными, дешевыми, безопасными бритвами и много превосходят все бритвенные аппараты. Цены: №8 - 4 рубля, №10 с изящным футляром и запасное лезвие - 6 рублей, №62 - тоже с 3 запасными лезвиями - 7 рублей. Имеется в хороших магазинах и оптом у фабриканта Ад. Арбенц, Лозанн, Швейцария.
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Именитое пневматическое ружье GEM.
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"The Original Gem Quality, Manufactured in Germany Specially for the Introducer A.Arbenz, Birmingham"

Источник: Walter's Dictionary of Guns and Gunmakers

Arbenz Adolph(e) Arbenz and his successors, often listed as gunmakers, were
merchants and wholesalers. However, as Arbenz was the communicant
of British Patent 4413/86 of 1886, granted to Flurscheim & Bergmann
(»Eisenwerke Gaggenau), it is clear that Arbenz’s business had attained some
importance. The patent notes the trading address in 1887 as 107 & 108 Great
Charles Street, Birmingham, but a move had been made by 1914 to 33 Ludgate
Hill, Birmingham. Arbenz survived into the post-1945 period, wholesaling
ironmongery, but ceased trading c. 1959. The links with airguns had long since
been severed.
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The British Medical Journal-Dec.1 1888
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""MANDARIN RAZORS.
WE have received from Mr. D. A. Arbenz, 107 and 108, Great
Charles Street, Birmingham, specimens of his mandarin razors, of
which we are able to speak in terms of commendation. While a
bad razor is at all times a source of pain and annoyance to the
user, a reliable, handy, and easy shaver is a convenience the
utility of which cannot be overrated for individual, and especially
for hospital, use.
Arbenz's interchangeable blades are said to be made of the
best English steel, are hardened and tempered to the highest
degree of perfection, and finished ofT in the natural colour, so that
their fine temper is not ruined by subsequent grinding and polishing,
as is commonly the case with razors of the old construction,
quality and durability in such instances being often sacrificed for
the sake of an extra polish.
These razors are supplied, with four interchangeable blades,
in a neat velvet-lined case.""
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Manufacturer: A. Arbenz Jougne (Adolfe Arbenz), Lausanne, Switzerland.
Country: Switzerland
Patent: U.S. Patent No. 903160, 10 Nov 1908, filed 11 Oct 1907, Adolfe Arbenz, Lausanne, Switzerland. Guard marked ENGL. PAT. 16127.
Comment: Guard marked A. ARBENZ JOUGNE, blades marked JOUGNE DOUBS / Arbenz (script), razor shank has Swiss open cross + marking, clip has A+J within oval outline.
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Improved safety device for razors United Kingdom Patent GB156452
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156,452. Arbenz, A. May 6, 1920. Razors, safety. A razor guard, comprising a plate 1 adapted to be secured against the side of the blade with its lower edge forming an unbroken protective 'bar spaced apart from the edge of the razor and having an opening 4 adjacent to the edge, is formed with the lower portion 2 of less thickness than the upper portion 3, there being a longitudinal shoulder between the two portions. The lower edges of the portion 3 may be shaped as at 5 to form the shoulder, and the upper and lower edges of the part 2 may be rounded or bevelled, or one edge may be rounded and the other bevelled. The guard is secured to either side of the blade by a clip, and the part 2 may be corrugated transversely. The guard may be of aluminium, celluloid, &c.
Application Date: 1920-05-06
Publication Date: 1921-01-13
Assignee: Adolphe Arbenz
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Из выше изложенного бизнес Арбенца начался незадолго до 1892г. первоначально в Англии г. Бирмингем. И был довольно успешным и видимо расширялся, была смена адреса с 107 & 108 Great
Charles Street, Birmingham на 33 Ludgate Hill, Birmingham.
Позже расширился территориально представительство во Франции Jugne и Doubs, после в Швейцарии Lausanne.
Причем с этим действительн темный лес т.к. Jugne (населенный пункт), кроме того как то связан с
патентным правом. Держатели, какие либо части бритв (сами лезвия, насадки для безопасного бритья, зажимы и пр.) защищенные уже французским панентом могли там же и изготавливаться Арбенцом (для Арбенца) в случае (переноса) расширения производства.
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BREVET (франц.) - патент
Причем основываясь на упоминаниях в различных источниках и рекламе это происходит примерно в одно и то же время:
Birmingham (Бирмингем) Англия 1888-1909-1914г.
Jugne (Жунь) Doubs (Ду) Франция 1897-1910-1914г.
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В городе имелось немало ремесленников - прядильщиков, ткачей,
плотников, сапожников, седельников, шорников, черепичников, ножов-
щиков, слесарей... Но работали они лишь на местных заказчиков, если
не считать производства беленого полотна, в XV веке вывозившегося
в Авиньон и Марсель. В рыночном хозяйстве города участвовали также
булочники, мясники, трактирщики, а по обеим сторонам моста, ведущего
в Баттан - предместье Безансона на правом берегу Ду,- выстроились
лучшие мелочные лавки. Правда, в XIII веке город получал выгоду
также и от международной торговли на устраивавшихся неподалеку
ярмарках в Шампани, служа перевалочным пунктом между Шампанью
и Италией на торговом пути по долине Лу через городок Жунь, где
с купцов взималась пошлина
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Lausanne (Лозанна) Швейцария 1907-1910-1914г.
United Kingdom Patent 1920-1921г.
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